“He Never Existed” – Will Peter (Joshua Jackson) Be Back for ‘Fringe’ Season 4

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May 7, 2011

On last nights mind-blowing Fringe season finale, we see Peter fizzling out of existence, with a helpful gathering of Observers explaining that “Peter never existed” and thus nobody remembers him. But that’s okay, because “Peter served his purpose.”?

We’re guessing the “vanishing Peter” thing won’t stick in season 4, but meanwhile, what does this mean? Here are few theories we thought of, also please share yours in the comments below:

  • Peter was never born?
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  • Somehow Peter changed things just enough that Walter never crossed over to rescue him from the other universe, and thus he died of that disease in 1985.
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    These two theories woudln’t explain why Walter and Walternate still dispute. Why would Walternate still accuse Walter of breaking his universe if Peter was never born or died of disease? This leaves us to:

  • The machine does stuff we don’t know about, and one of its functions is to erase its operator from the timeline for his own protection.
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  • The Observers did it — the way in which they say “Peter served his purpose” makes you wonder if they’ve been keeping Peter in existence all along, using their Observer powers, and now they no longer need him.
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It seems like another time paradox: Peter never existed, and yet all of the stuff that happened because of Peter still happened, including Walter’s original crossing-over and the activation of the machine.

In any case, Joshua Jackson will be back for season 4. “He’s got a job. He’s still under contract,” J.H. Wyman confirmed. “We can’t yet reveal what exactly we have in store for him, but he’s definitely not going out for other shows.” executive producer continued.

Keep checking our born again Fringe Spoilers page during the hiatus, we’ll be updating you on any spoilers or clues we hear!

  • Arielle

    Yep, it was kind of stupid to say: He never really existed…what the hell? Why then everything happend?

  • SamNYC

    I have loved Fringe from episode one and hope they do season four real justice.

  • Karen

    Maybe he never existed as ‘peter’ and they will bring him in as a new character entirely….?? I dont know. I hate that theory!!

  • Lylee

    Part that makes the least since about him “never existing” is what about his and Flax-livia’s kid

    You can’t have a kid if you never existed so how did Walter-nate get the DNA from the kid (-Flaux-livia’s DNA) to activate the machine over there

    All fans should sue Fringe leaving gigantic multiple cliff hangers at the end of every season
    and leaving us in suspense all summer!

  • Lylee

    Part that makes the least since about him “never existing” is what about his and Flax-livia’s kid

    You can’t have a kid if you never existed so how did Walter-nate get the DNA from the kid (-Flaux-livia’s DNA) to activate the machine over there

    All fans should sue Fringe leaving gigantic multiple cliff hangers at the end of every season
    and leaving us in suspense all summer!

  • Evrysnist8ken

    If Peter never existed what about the baby with the other Olivia?

  • Evrysnist8ken

    If Peter never existed what about the baby with the other Olivia?

  • Erinlamb

    Um, have you ever seen a season finale? For any show?

  • Mwatzz

    Guys, it makes perfect sense that he did not exist. ie as far as all the characters know, he never existed. “You can change your future, but u can not change history” – adonis –
    hence everything that has happened up until this point has happened.By coming back from the future and changing he’s decision he deleted that future and hence could not have gone to the future and seen that future and hence could not have changed it and hence he did go to the future and changed it… infinite loop!unless peter is taken out of the equation (no more loop), then it balances that presently the 2 worlds exist from the point Peter was removed.

  • Ramzee99

    I think Jackson will be back as a completely new character. Being erased out of existence is pretty hard to come back from even in fringeville

  • als86

    ln wich case Peter should still exist as he was before he got in the machine. Changing the future from that point means he never had to go back to fix it. But it doesnt mean he was never born since he played a key role in everything leading up to the moment he enterd the machine. l would assume that in the new season opener he will reapear (possible still in the machine) but without any memory of the possible future events or what he even did creating a bridge between the 2 universes. Kinda anti climatic to the cliff hanger they left us with in my opinion, but whos to say thats how it goes down. Cant wait for more, big fan!

  • Jihan

    Arielle, thats the point :) to leave you hanging by the cliff

  • John

    I reckon Peter will be back as an observer initially, and will then go on to become a regular character again through some emotional plea or outlandish occurance.

  • Egnirf

    Thinking “The Observers” are the progeny of those who bring the machine through the wormhole and back in time. Thereby ensuring Peter was lead to do what they knew he needed to do. Just opens more paradoxes of course. I hope they don’t pull a Lost season 6 on us and kill the show.

  • jonlseal

    Could it be that Peter’s actions created a third universe instead of really combining the two universes (albeit in a single spot) and so he effectively doesn’t exist in the new one?

  • Durple

    there is a simple solution for the never existed Peter. By saying he never existed can be taken as he was never involved in all the events leading up to the point. Thus them not noticing he disappeared. He should come back as Walternates son who was saved be Walter, thus still destroying the universes but not Peter dying. Works with Fringe on solving fringe events just as the show started. Walternate says” Your destroyed our universe” Walter replies “I saved your son” blah blah blah Peter eventually goes back to our universe to help keep the peace and help us.

  • Tparker

    I just saw the final episode online and my mouth is still open, from shock!!

  • http://www.spoilersguide.com/ Matej

    Lost-alike moment :)

  • MrDino

    I would say something like he “never” existed on a parallel time line (such as doctor emmet brown explains in back to the future) and also such as walter said in the future something like “cheating the timeline”, the only way to avoid both worlds being destroyed would be stopping Peter repeating the loop over and over again, that is what the observers were preparing walter for, And I also think somehow he would still be around looking everything that happnes as a “ghost” that was trapped somewhere in between time and the 2 universes… I dunno somehting like that I can imagine will happen in season 4

  • http://twitter.com/robertholsman Robert Holsman

    The more I think about it, the only way that the “Peter never existed” makes sense is that the original Observer never saved Peter from the lake. This has been referred to quite a few times as the moment changed the course of events, something that the Observer should never have done. Because this event happened after Walter had crossed between universes, the chain of events was already set into motion, but Peter drowning as a young boy would have erased him from the Fringe team’s memories, and would be ancient history for both Walter and Walternate.

    But it still creates more (whatever the plural of ‘paradox’ is) .. does Faux-livia still have a child? If not, who started Walternate’s doomsday machine? What about all the times Peter has saved Olivia on this side?

    Can’t wait to see how these get answered in S4!

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  • http://twitter.com/NullMind NullMind

    Maybe Olivia wakes up and it was all a dream, Peter is taking a shower ..

  • http://twitter.com/NullMind NullMind

    Maybe Olivia wakes up and it was all a dream, Peter is taking a shower ..

  • Svisek

    They saved Peter in the lake, but they actually engineered his crossing over by distracting Walternate in his lab so he wouldn’t see that he had discovered the cure for Peter’s disease, which Walter saw as he looked on from our universe. Thus that was the critical moment, not saving him from drowning. If the Observers now undo that distraction, Peter will live in the other universe. Not sure how that leads him to still be an important character, but I guess I’ll have to wait till next season to find out.

    Overall the season was great. I’m still not sure if that whole “cartoon” thing was hokey or brilliant, but it sure was different!

  • Loucas69

    Big Fan of Fringe series here!!!!

    I had some questions but you guys kinda answered them all in your theories. And man i love your theories!

    But still keeps me wondering! Why Peter never existed? After all he had a Human Life and…..a baby with the Other-Olivia!

    The Observers from their words in the end of the episode makes you think that “They” created Peter. More like an “Observer Soldier” to them or something…

    That’s why (in my theory) the Observer saved Peter from the lake.. Because “THEY” created him and only “THEY” will Terminate his “life”!

    IMO That’s why the Observer said that
    he served his purpose to earth!

    OR maybe in my other theory….. Peter exists but not here nor the “alternate there”…Maybe a 3rd Universe? Maybe the Observers send Peter from a 3rd Universe to stop the 2 Worlds from fighting to save all Dimensions? Peter’s said that if the 1 universe collapse then the other universe will collapse also! So we have a Domino effect here; (3-1-1-1=0)

    So basically my theory is that Peter never existed in those 2 Worlds but he exists in a 3rd Universe!

    I don’t wanna wait until September for the Answer! Arghhhhh!

  • David Ogilvie

    @0fd8fa8cef12b9da3ee573332696a532:disqus The ‘cartoon’ thing is an episode with many sci fi references. The animation is the same as is found in ‘A Scanner Darkly’, an adaptation of Philip K Dicks’s short story from the 1960s. It’s really good, has an ensemble cast of voices. There are also references to Inception and a host of other films, can you work them out?…

  • David Ogilvie

    I think that the show could go Heroes-esque and more people with abilities will emerge. The show has gone a little of track forgetting about the spooky happenings and investigative proceedings. Peter will become an Observer seeing as he has seen the ‘bigger picture’.

  • Fred

    I think they’ve just sealed the shows path towards the oblivion that is cancellation or at least a premature ending.

    None of the theories put forward so far make much sense and yet they aren’t too difficult in concept to grasp. By that I mean that whatever the eventual answer to why things transpired how they did will most likely be either so ridiculous that it will lose the show some viewership or that the explanation will be so confusing that it has the same effect and again viewers switch off.

    Don’t get me wrong I love Fringe but I am personally still reeling from this week’s ending and subsequent cancellation of Stargate Universe and I don’t think I can take getting further invested in a show if it is just going to screw around with plots for the sake of trying to be clever when the net result is viewers end-up so confused that they can’t be bothered to watch any longer.

  • Fred

    I think they’ve just sealed the shows path towards the oblivion that is cancellation or at least a premature ending.

    None of the theories put forward so far make much sense and yet they aren’t too difficult in concept to grasp. By that I mean that whatever the eventual answer to why things transpired how they did will most likely be either so ridiculous that it will lose the show some viewership or that the explanation will be so confusing that it has the same effect and again viewers switch off.

    Don’t get me wrong I love Fringe but I am personally still reeling from this week’s ending and subsequent cancellation of Stargate Universe and I don’t think I can take getting further invested in a show if it is just going to screw around with plots for the sake of trying to be clever when the net result is viewers end-up so confused that they can’t be bothered to watch any longer.

  • Adam

    The best part about this show, along with reading all of your comments, is that the whole 3 seasons so far, I have not been able to guess anything that has been going on! And I have tried MANY times. All these theories sound good, but this show has been written pretty well so far, can’t wait to see where they take it next :)

  • Bloodninja

    One thing I find that’s being left out here is Sam Weiss. He clearly states that “generations of knowledge have been passed down to me” or something similar. So what might he know about the observers?

  • Gina

    When will Season 4 be aired? Can’t wait!

  • enthusiast

     If peter never existed then olivia wouldn’t be able to get walter out of st.claire, leading to John Scott’s death. With his death Olivia wouldn’t impress broyles and therefore wouldn’t get into fringe division.

    Basicly peter’s “non-existance” messes the events from “pilot” to the last episode.

  • enthusiast

    Ye I believe that they have done a great job so far aswell. The series have become more and more interesting.The introduction of an alternative universe was brilliant and refreshing, but time travelling/time changing always leads to dead ends or nasty paradoxes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1054471522 Mattie Sadlier

     Walter stuffed it up when he crossed over and took Peter but when they crossed back over Peter should have drowned but the Observer saved him, knowing that he would be needed to save that universe, so now that he has done that it’s like the Observers have changed the past and let Peter drown in the ice, Walternate is still pissed with Walter because Walter stole his son but peter drowned that night when they crossed back over…..well thats what i think about that but i dont know how they are going to bring Peter back unless its as an Observer but he just doesn’t look like one. Walter might go back in time and make sure Peter never fell in that water.

  • Narelle

    Or it could work like this. Olivia will remember him, she always remembers.  And that is how he will come back though her memories.  Walter will have some machine to bring human memories into reality. The birth of Peter! How cool would that be.  My guess is the reason why the universes are still pissed at each other is because Walter still did kidnap Peter from the other universe but the Observer just didn’t save them this time. 

    Universe 3 – Observer Universe?

  • Bigdidu56

    O_O” ???????  

  • Surgatv

    Does that make Peter’s baby Jesus, as it was the immaculate conception, assuming Peter never lived, right? 

  • Peter Bishop

     cant wait season 4

  • Peter Bishop

     cant wait season 4

  • Lillyharari

     Of course, maybe that’s where they’re taking it.  Maybe season 4 will begin with a completely new blank slate.  With everything back to square 1 (or actually before square 1), they can in effect, start over with a whole new slant.

  • justathought

     I have been wondering this for some time now – how is it that after Walter crossed over to get Peter other people were able to cross over? The it’s always been said that this was a breech; Walter couldn’t take Peter back over there because he couldn’t create a way that wouldn’t cause grave harm to the universe, or so his 1985 self thought. I know that Olivia as a child crossed over by accident when she was scared, but that doesn’t explain how others crossed over, how the first shapeshifter made it over, etc. Unless I missed something. Maybe, then, the Observers really are in charge. Maybe there is a third universe, the observers are like angels and they exist in “heaven”. Maybe Peter becomes an observer and helps Olivia, comes to her in visions. Maybe thr guy who played Lincoln in the other universe and also played the agent in the one about the woman who never dies is Olivia’s true love and Peter helps fascilitate that. Whatever they do with season four, I hope they don’t make me regret getting all invested in this show.

  • justathought

     I have been wondering this for some time now – how is it that after Walter crossed over to get Peter other people were able to cross over? The it’s always been said that this was a breech; Walter couldn’t take Peter back over there because he couldn’t create a way that wouldn’t cause grave harm to the universe, or so his 1985 self thought. I know that Olivia as a child crossed over by accident when she was scared, but that doesn’t explain how others crossed over, how the first shapeshifter made it over, etc. Unless I missed something. Maybe, then, the Observers really are in charge. Maybe there is a third universe, the observers are like angels and they exist in “heaven”. Maybe Peter becomes an observer and helps Olivia, comes to her in visions. Maybe thr guy who played Lincoln in the other universe and also played the agent in the one about the woman who never dies is Olivia’s true love and Peter helps fascilitate that. Whatever they do with season four, I hope they don’t make me regret getting all invested in this show.

  • Arielle

    I really hope is not going to be like Lost. It started very well until the 4 season. And they couldn’t explain what they have been introducing in the show. I really hope JJ Abrahams learded the lesson with Lost (that show didn’t deserve that horrible finale).

  • Maggi

    I really hated fringe when i came to know that ” Peter never existed”… what d hell is going happen in season 4???????

  • Matt

    “Blah blah blah LOST deserved better blah blah.” The beauty of LOST as well as fringe as of late, is the character development. Abrams is an absolute master of creating convincing relatable characters. Screw your unanswered LOST questions. Who gives a crap. Time and time again, Abrams has stated and even showed with his finale to LOST that all along, it wasn’t the mysteries of the island, it was the intricacies of the relationships between and among characters that made it truly spectacular. Stop spouting your bs about how you still have a chip on your shoulder over not every single one of your questions about LOST being answered.

  • Torreskaka

    When the fourth season begins

  • http://www.facebook.com/Ch3rryManiac Zoe CherryManiac Mitchell

    yes but this is done to make us think… this is why programs like this exist and survive longer than others… i cant wait to see more :)

  • Andy

    You know, trying to communicate a sloppy theory like yours isn’t helped by making a dozen typos.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PM5W4NYPWETX57EJU6HFO7327U Chime Changa

    I think they’ll come up with something that’s fairly creative and just as stupid. I mean to say he existed at all for any other purpose than what the time traveler people designed his existence for would contradict what they said at the end. Some how they constructed a way to put an otherwise non-existent person into the equation to bring the two worlds together, and then somehow they came together for a totally different reason.

    They made it intriguing, sure, but anything they do concerning Peter will contradict something. I mean who do they, the Walter’s, think they were just looking at? Why do they think that suddenly, they inexplicably came together? How do they think the machine turned on? Why is the one Walter so angry still if Peter never existed? If Peter doesn’t exist, then Peter was never kidnapped, and the Fringe events, the tears, were obviously caused by something else, not Walter. Oh, or was it some other Michael this time who’s actually Walter’s son and Walter created the tear to save his son Michael? Oh, well if that’s the case, hey we’re right back to Peter again, thus no reason why Peter should never have existed. What is this normal Mike the one who operated the machine instead of Peter? Peter never existed, it all had to happen somehow. Oh wait, I know, it all just happened, that’s going to be the premise, it all just happened. That right there contradicts reality.

    There’s nothing they’re going to be able to do to avoid contradicting themselves, but I’m sure it’ll be creative enough, but it’ll definitely be contradictory.

  • Nutter

    Yea you gotta wonder about the producer’s ‘lack of suprise’ at being picked up for a fourth season with an ending like that, clearly not much was thought through and it was just intended to leave all of us ‘stunted and wanting more’… so hey, well played!

    ‘Cause lets face it if Peter never existed, then both universes would be fully intact as Walter would have never crossed over in the first place, and the cortexafam kids would not have existed ’cause Walter would never have had a reason to experiment, etc etc etc…

    One things for sure, it’s going to be awesome to see them explain every loophole created in one statement- so I reckon S4 will be as addictive as its predecessors!

  • Arielle

    Yeah right, ok with the character developement but it brought lost in the story of the BIBLE. Everything is explained by the Bible in Lost and Fringe. The final season of lost with history of the good and the bad and the light???And now in fringe with the book of the first people…come on. Give me a break!!
    Really Lost is still one of my fav television shows (at least until season 4…which according to me was the season they should have ended it)…But it seems to me that they didn’t learn the lesson and try mix to many things together and tìin the end they cannot get out of the mess they create… 

    And really JJ Abrahams had many many times declared that alla the mistery in lost will be explained, he failed in doing this and do not come to me with bullshit about character developement…ciao!!!

  • Emma

    I don’t understand why people are trying so hard to figure out how peter could not exist.. technically skipping time as radically as peter did is theoretically impossible.. you can travel through time by just sitting here reading this but if we could skip time as peter did, then we would have beaten some huge laws of nature. Everything else on the show is the impossible, why not this? Stop questioning the writers, i’m sure they have something good up their sleeves! From what i’ve seen of this show, i really enjoy it and i’m sure they intend to keep it that way. Clearly Peter is not out of the show since he’s still on contract, so just be patient and wait and see. I doubt any nervous, desperate hypothesis is going to be correct so what is the point? Just sit back and enjoy the wait! Come on Fringe!

  • Sphinx

    I think “Peter never existed” holds only in context of the Time when the Walter & Walternate, having agreed to fix the timeline itself, were back in time in their respective Universes, only never to give birth to Peter in the near future; thus changing the courses of future events in the Parallels to the two Parallel Universes, (likely in a manner depicted in Season 2′s “White Tulip” episode) and, consequently, leading into a whole new timeline in which we are on that has brought forth a television series “Fringe” (created by the Observers themselves) to give us a glimpse of what would have happened if Walters wouldn’t have made different choices back in time…                  

  • Lildeman

    Here is a thought on Peter’s misting out of reality. He has been protected in past by the Observer’s, by both Foe-livia and Olivia, and is loved dearly by both Walter-net and Walter. We know the First people wrote the book but no one knows who the first people are but we do know is somehow they drew both Peter an Olivia to perfect and detailed what they needed to do to use the Devise. We know the Device allows Peter to cross time and space affecting both universous. What If Peter wrote the book of the first people. Might it not be possible that his phase out is where he jumps back to make said device. By forcing the Women he loves and who love to make Walter-net and Walter work togther to save both worlds since we have learned that if one world dies both worlds die? We know that J.Jackson is on the payroll for season 4 so he will be back. But what better twist then to roll it up like this. Peter was the only one who seemed to move through the blue prints of the device without the aid of a whole team of researchers backing him. The Device was built solo for him to use but with a fail safe that only the woman he loved could activate. The Observers have been steadily protecting Peter, for some ulitimate purpous. I for one believe that it is so that he can re-balance the scales that Walter throw into up heval on his first crossing. But thats just the thought I came to as i watched the ending of season 3

  • Ahmi

    yeah peter bishop is still gonna be in fringe

  • Fuly

    i don’t think that peter will vanish at any season of fringe. walter is his father (at both sides) olivia is his wife/girlfriend (whatever). without peter the whole story can’t stand for long.

  • Dave675

    Character development works best with a great story.  The Lost season finale totally sucked.  The finale failed to answer the mysteries that made the show intriguing.  It was a cop out.  I think if the Fringe story loses coherence the show will go the way of the X-Files.  The X-Files had a great beginning but totally lame ending due to similar issues.       

  • Treasuretocome

    How could a Peter that never existed father a child with Fauxlivia??

  • tonyy

    The Olivia’s will bring peter back!

  • Leemarksmith

    The first people are us, Walter etc. It said so towards the end, Walter built the machine and sent it back.

  • Airhersalderaz

        Well.
         It’s very possible that what the observer meant by Peter never having existed was being said figuratively, it was like the meatphor of the falling tree no one saw. Because no one remmembers HIM, Peter in effect did not exist. But a person did exist that set off the chain of events that resulted in this outcome, it’s just no one remmembers that person, thy just know that they’ve got to this point somehow, that Faux-livia has a child, that Olivia feels a sense of loss of a loved one, that the Walters feel they had a child… Bit by bit they will realise something is missing… Obviously, if this is true then it means that other directly connected memories will have to be missing as well… The Observers do not INTERVINE (they say) so going by that, it is the result of Peters actions that resulted in his “dissappearance”, likely beacuse of the machine somehow. There could well be another world of some kind or dimension that the observers come from, perhaps Peter has gone there. After all, let’s not forget the way Walter said in the past to the observer “Please don’t TAKE my son”. Perhaps they’ve TAKEN him to their world after he left ours? The only way he’ll reappear is if they decide he’s needed to set things in the world right after all. The idea of him ending up ‘removed’ from the two worlds is to re-address the ‘balance’. But the balance is the disruption between the two worlds, the rifts, not the fact that one of him survived and the other didn’t. After all, we no a fair few people who’ve survived on on side but not on the other. Like Agent Miles for example.
        Then there’s the guy from the Bowling alley. Perhaps HE is the son of an observer? And he is from the third dimension? Perhpas he doesn’t even know this? Perhaps the OBSERVERS built the machine, NOT Walter, they are the first people. And they had to choose Peter to be the user, because he was the beginning of the disbalance in the first place. So it’s kind of a universal correction. Olivia and Walters envolvement just made sense. That’s why they refer to his purpose. But perhaps even THEY don’t know the end result of this ‘quick fix’  they’ve brought about, and in the end will realise the only way to re-create perfect balance is to re-introduce Peter. But maybe… just maybe the only way they can do this sucessfully will be to ‘admit defeat’ as it where and simply arrange it so that BOTH Peter’s where saved to begin with and the event’s of the entire story will be undone. Everyone will be happy, and somehow Olivia will meet Peter anyway, because it’s destiny, and they’ll still fall in love and happy days. Of course the Observers can’t do this directly. which means they’ll have to send Olivia, Walter etc back in time to set things straight.
        The whole time paradox -even though it isn’t supposed to make sense- could well be a loop that BECAME endless (or seemingly) brought about by the Observers actions to try and fix the universal disbalance. After all, it can’t truly be called a paradox, because Walters actions of sending Peter back to change the future result in doing just that. Therefor the circle is already broken, and that future cannot exist. Furthermore if the loop DID continue somehow, the Observers would have to metaphorically pull a few strings to brake the eternal loop. Then again, it seems they’ve already done that, by somehow putting the idea in Walters head to change the future. Why he wouldn’t have already thought of that I can’t fathom…

     That’s my take on it.  I also think Peter – for ‘now’ anyway – will remain either in some kind of limbo land, or in the third dimension where the observers come from.
       

  • Jamin 1564

    For me I find looking at it from Walters poit of view as a large continuing loop where he goes back (poss with others) with the machine to the time period (I forget which) mentioned via the vortex (idea of someone who died before their birth used in many sc fi series)

    So effectively time is stuck in a groove on a broken record, going over and over again ending with both worlds destroyed until Peter gets the “insight” to make a different choice at the right moment, jumping the universes out of the cycle and allowing them to progress. This doesn’t explain Peter then being “wiped” out of everything, but I feel this is going to be more of a “gone from now” then ‘he was never ever there’ (as that causes all kinds of problems as mentioned)

    Also a question that I haven’t heard raised is when Walter went/wouldve gone back with the machine only one universe, therefore one machine existed so what happened and when to split the worlds and create the two univeres?

  • Jamin 1564

    + second machine

  • John Sturdy

    I really like the idea that the observers have something to do with using the machine. I think that person said progeny wich would mean if peter had a kid wich he would have but since he no longer exists nither does the kid. unfortunately we’ve already seen one of the observers as a kid, implying they’re from the future or at least one version of it. The only way both make sense is if observers are made not just by the machine but by any event in time leading to a paradox in wich the an idividual becomes a temperal focal point wich then has to be erased in order to restore the ballence between realities. that individual is erased from both histories but then survives as an observer to the all of reality. The change in nature making them imortal all knowledgable, the power to cross from one universe to another at will. Oh & making them bald as cue balls, imagine that one for Peter. But lets not forget we’d need to see what happened to the other guy & how he became an obsever! But if  Peter didn’t exist the one of walters other experiments could explain the accidental damage to the other universe. Didn’t  he send a car from one universe to the other & back again? landed back this side impailed on a lampost or something if memorie servse. I’ll admit it’s a far more trivial reason for crossing, but could’ve still done or begun all the damage none the less.

  • Dylan

    I think peter will be back has an observer. maybe the observers are just different versions of peter going threw time. because if u think the observers are non exsistence so maybe peter will be back as an observer that could also be the reason the observer saved peter from drowning

    THINK ABOUT IT

  • Ckalexan

    About
    Peter:
    I start with Peter, because he is the only one that bothered everybody with his
    disappearance. I believe that Peter is going to BECOME something like an
    Observer. The part in my point of view that differs from everything I read so
    far is that I don’t believe he will come back bold without eyebrows. He will
    just understand what was obvious from the start of the show. He is not trapped
    inside history. That’s why he could make a choice that no other man could. In
    “About the Observers” part I will explain what I mean when I say
    “…like an Observer”.

    About Peter’s son:
    I believe he is going to be crucial for the development of the story. As we saw
    in last episode his DNA could also start the machine. So, whatever made Peter
    special passed to his son.

    About Belly:
    I think that William Bell is one of the most important characters in the show.
    He is always a step ahead of everyone. He is the one that made everything
    happen. He made out of nothing an empire with infinite recourses so that his
    universe can have a chance against the other universe where Walternate is far
    more technologically advanced. If in Walternate’s universe Bell did not have
    that accident, then Walter’s universe would not stand a chance.
    I’d like to see him coming back, perhaps with a different body (this whole
    cartoon episode was like the actor wasn’t willing to participate in another
    episode).

    About Olive & Flauxolivia:
    We think that the first universe is the only one that matters and because of
    that characters like Flauxolivia should not continue to bother us. That’s not
    true. First of all, Flauxolivia is also mentioned in the book that Walternate
    has. So, cortexifan just helped Olivia use what was already there. If we assume
    that Flauxolivia has the same abilities, then the two of them can help the
    Walters break the machine into pieces and send it back in time.

    About Walter & Walternate:
    The last episode leaves the two of them together. Walternate’s intelligence and
    determination and Walter’s vivid imagination can give a good result in the
    first episode. So I believe that this merge of universes won’t last for a long
    time.

    About the Vacuum:
    I think that the Vacuum is made by the same tech that made the guns that the
    Observers carry. Walter just sent it back in time because he could not destroy
    it. I also believe that its technology is not coming from the future, but from
    another universe.

    About The Observers:
    I don’t like the idea that Observers are All-knowing, Everlasting beings. My
    theory is that:
    1] They are a group of humans that survived one of the other doomsdays that
    Walter said our planet suffered millions of years ago.
    (The boy they found underground was like the Observers and Walter said that
    could be much older than he looks.)

    2] They calculate about what the future can be and try to keep the balance in
    all universes, in order to prevent a catastrophe similar to the one they
    suffered.
    (The really smart guy that could calculate time knew what his sister was going
    to say before she did, exactly as the Observers do, and probably the Observers
    can foresee the future just as he did.)

    3] They are not superior beings as we assumed in the beginning of the show.
    They have the same needs as every other human and they make mistakes.
    (The little boy needed o mother. They all need to eat. Augustus fell in love.
    Augustus died. The main Observer started it all when he disturbed Walternate.
    They were relieved when Peter succeeded to merge the two universes.)

  • Annah

    Don’t forget, Olivia has special powers and her and Peter have a connection from childhood and to do with the machine. It was because of her that he was able to get into the machine, it was because of her that he created the bridge to the two worlds and it will be because her that Peter WILL exist. I don’t know how obviously, but I’m sure it will play into it somehow. 

  • Gary Doncaster

    Personally I think Peter will come back but he will be part of the observers  

  • Jojo_butterfly1982

    The following is an explanation of the finale for Season 3 of FRINGE for those who don’t follow the show or were totally confused when Peter disappeared.The Original Machine And The First PeopleThe Machine was originally designed to heal the damage done to both Universes as the result of Walter Bishop’s and William Bell’s interdimensional experiments at Harvard in the 1970′s where they pulled objects from the Alternate Universe.In an original timeline, the Machine was created in the future by William Bell and/or Walter Bishop to repair the damage they had done to both Universes. The First People were none other than William Bell and Walter Bishop on the “first” timeline before the machine was created.Programming the PastThe machine was programmed to create an event or series of events in the past that would stop Walter from continuing his interdimensional experiments before he damaged both Universes beyond repair.The Insurance Policy And Many WorldsAs an insurance policy, the machine was also sent 250 Million years into the past as a safeguard in case the programmed events failed to undo the damage caused by Walter and Bell.In accordance with the Many Worlds Interpretation Of Quantum Mechanics, time branches off into multiple timelines(The Road Not Taken – Season 1) in every instance where a choice is made.By sending the Machine 250 Million years into the distant past, the machine could be re-assembled in the recent past on any timeline. Since an innumerable number of time lines branched off from the moment the machine arrived in the distant past, there are multitudes of Machines existing within multitudes of timelines. As the Observer told Walter in the Season 1 finale; “There is more than one of everything.”Peter Ex MachinaPeter in the Prime Universe and his double in the Alternate universe were programmed creations of the machine to correct the imbalance between both Universes caused by Walter and William Bell’s experiments.Peter entered both Universes via conception and birth at the same time Walter and William Bell in the Prime Universe were pulling objects from the Alternate Universe during their interdimensional experiments at Harvard. Peter’s Genetic Defects Caused By The MachineSince both Peters were artificially created by the machine, both had genetic defects from childbirth which got progressively worse until both Peters were gravely ill in their respective Universes.Original SolutionWhen the Peter of the Prime Universe died in 1985, the original solution was the death of the Alternate Peter in the Alternate Universe. The death of both Peters was meant to emotionally dishearten and demoralize both Walter and Walternate into giving up their endeavors and pursue some other line of work.Walter Interferes With The Machine In 1985When Walter crossed over to the Alternate Universe in 1985 and took the Alternate Peter in order to cure him, his refusal to emotionally “let go of Peter” interfered with the functioning of the machine and magnified the imbalance between Universes originally caused by Walter and Bell’s experiments.The Boy Is ImportantAfter Walter crossed back into the Prime Universe with Peter at Reiden Lake, both of them fell through the ice and nearly drowned. Walter and Peter were saved by the Observer for a simple reason; since Peter was created by the machine, he was the only one who could interact with it in at a future moment and repair all the damage caused by Walter.This is why the Observer told Walter; “The boy is important”.(Peter – Season 2)Insurance Policy ImplementedWith the magnification of the imbalance between Universes, the Observers made sure Walter and Walternate knew of the existence of the machine in both Universes in order to heal the massive damage caused by Walter’s kidnapping of Peter from the Alternate Universe. Balance And ImbalanceAt the very end of the finale, Peter told Walter and Walternate that he punched holes in both Universes in the past to create balance between them(i.e. the bridge). Peter was the current representation of imbalance because he was taken from the Other Side when the original Peter died. Erasure From Both Universes And Branching New TimelinesIt’s likely Peter punched the holes in both Universes around the time Walter and Bell were performing their experiments in the 1970′s but at a time just before Peter was conceived and born in both Universes. Peter’s efforts canceled out the initial imbalance originally caused by Walter and Bell’s experiments. At this point, new time lines branched off from the main time lines of each Universe before Peter was born in either Universe. The existence of the new time lines nullified the need for the machine to artificially create Peter in both Universes to restore balance. Therefore in each of those new time lines, Peter was never born. As a result, Peter erased himself from the new time lines of both Universes when he created balance between them. How Peter VanishedThe brief appearance of Peter on the bridge between the new time lines was the result of residual overlap of the original time lines of both Universes intersecting with the bridge. This was caused by the residual energy remaining inside the machine as it powered down. As the overlap from the original Universes pulled away from the bridge and snapped back to their original time lines, Peter disappeared into nothingness. The current moment of time on the bridge instantaneously became the culmination of history from both of the new time lines where Peter never existed.Cause of the War Between Universes ChangedWhen Peter erased himself from the new time lines of both Universes, the cause for the war between the Universes changed from Peter’s abduction to Walter and Bell’s experiments. The Cortexiphan trials still took place with Olivia as one of the subjects but she never met Peter Bishop either as a child(Subject 13 – Season 3) or as an adult(from The Pilot – Season 1 to The Day We Died – Season 3).The experiments carried out by Walter and Bell in the Prime Universe continued into the 1980′s including cross-overs to the Alternate Universe either by Olivia during the Cortexiphan experiments or by Walter and Bell. These events gradually made things worse in the Alternate Universe until it culminated in the war between Universes and the animosity we saw in the room between Walter and Walternate at the end of the finale.Peter Never Existed And Served His PurposeThe Observer on Liberty Island in the new version of the Present said Peter “never existed and served his purpose”. He didn’t have to exist. Peter was a function of the machine on the original time lines and wasn’t necessary to restore balance on the new time lines.ConclusionThe bridge between Universes at the end of the Season 3 finale is a link between two new time lines, one from the Prime Universe and one from the Alternate Universe. Peter never existed in either time line.

  • julian

    well with season 3 finale i was jus left on a hanger i can’t wait for season 4 my view is peter’s role just as dunham’s were pre written by the “first people” as seen in Weis’s book and peter’s death as a chils was not goin to let that plan fail thus the observers had to enginner his staying alive yet none existant to complete his mission because walters discoveries would still take him to the alternate universe

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AVFQKJGQOH2FAL2HVKCOQIQDOA nina

    I love Fringe and I loved the season finally. There are just so many possibilities that ones mind can come up with and the ones above were great. I can’t wait to see Season 4. I’m a loyal viewer, a friend had me over and we watch the first season and ever since I couldn’t get enough of it. Even last season, I was abroad but didn’t dare miss an episode. I was loyal calling my family every saturday night but didn’t mention that Fringe was the maine reason why I was loyal. Can’t wait for the summer to end.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AVFQKJGQOH2FAL2HVKCOQIQDOA nina

    Well we aren’t sure if anything happen or what actually happen? We don’t know if he was ever brought over. We don’t know if he was even born. The final moments of the season finally is just the key to the can of worms. Will get the worms, hopefully, next season.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AVFQKJGQOH2FAL2HVKCOQIQDOA nina

    A cool theory though. I hadn’t thought of that. Great idea.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AVFQKJGQOH2FAL2HVKCOQIQDOA nina

    I didn’t know you could sue over this. Kidding. Well, the kid could exist but “say” it’s someone elses. And having Peter not exist, well, the machine being started was not by the baby’s DNA, which belong to Peter but by something else, I don’t know, just throwing ideas out there.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AVFQKJGQOH2FAL2HVKCOQIQDOA nina

    I had to read this a couple of times… “You can change the future, but you can not change the past” however the Observers said, he never existed… Unless you’re talking about mass mind manipulation, erasing, who knows what else… And I think, at some point, the two universes will have to seperate again because no two objects can exist in the same place.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AVFQKJGQOH2FAL2HVKCOQIQDOA nina

    I like your theory, it’s much nicer than anything else I have though out of or read.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AVFQKJGQOH2FAL2HVKCOQIQDOA nina

    This is a great idea. I think it would give Jackson a great apportunity to show more of his acting skills. I’m not a huge Jackson fan to be honest but his been a great Peter, sort of. I love Anna Torv, I haven’t been impress by an actor/actress in a very long time. I can’t wait for Season 4.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AVFQKJGQOH2FAL2HVKCOQIQDOA nina

    Not a bad idea. I hadn’t thought of this and haven’t read this theory before… And it seems to work in the sense that you have describe… We will just have to wait and see what Fringe producers have in store for us.

  • Peanut

    I had a theory about the observers. They could have taken some mind drug that enables them to see the dimension of time as well as space. I think that they would have to give up one of their other senses cuz the brain cant handle all that information so that would explain y they put so much pepper on their food. That would also explain why they only watch because once you know what the future holds, interfering would have extreme consequences.

    Plz comment your thoughts regarding this and feel free to patch up any holes you find.